# US 2025/0097986 A1 · Radio network temporary identifier selection for multiple random access transmissions > Agents: this data is available as JSON from the patentgrep API and MCP server — see https://patentgrep.com/llms.txt - Number: US 2025/0097986 A1 - Document ID: US20250097986A1 - Status: Published application - Kind: A1 - Application number: 18/728,373 - Filed: 2022-04-02 - Published: 2025-03-20 - Earliest claimed: 2022-04-02 - Assignees: QUALCOMM Incorporated - Applicants: QUALCOMM Incorporated - Inventors: Hung Dinh LY; Kexin XIAO; Hwan Joon KWON - Web page: https://patentgrep.com/patent/US20250097986A1 ## CPC - H04W 74/0833: Random access procedures, e.g. with 4-step access - H04W 72/1268: of uplink data flows - H04W 74/0836: with 2-step access - H04W 74/0838: using contention-free random access [CFRA] - H04W: WIRELESS COMMUNICATION NETWORKS (broadcast communication H04H; communication systems using wireless links for non-selective communication, e.g. wireless extensions H04M1/72) ## Abstract Methods, systems, and devices for wireless communication at a user equipment (UE) are described. A UE may receive an indication of a set of random access occasions associated with a random access procedure. The UE may transmit a set of uplink random access channel messages over the set of random access occasions corresponding to the set of uplink random access channel messages. The UE may select a radio network temporary identifier for the UE based on a defined position within the set of random access occasions and receive a downlink random access channel message using the radio network temporary identifier based on the defined position within the set of random access occasions. ## Claims ### Claim 1 An apparatus for wireless communication at a user equipment (UE), comprising: at least one processor; and memory coupled to the at least one processor, the memory storing instructions executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: receive an indication of a plurality of random access occasions associated with a random access procedure; transmit a plurality of uplink random access channel messages over the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; select a radio network temporary identifier for the UE based at least in part on a defined position within the plurality of random access occasions; and receive a downlink random access channel message using the radio network temporary identifier based at least in part on the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 2 (depends on 1) The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the instructions to transmit the plurality of uplink random access channel messages are executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: transmit, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially first position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 3 (depends on 1) The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the instructions to transmit the plurality of uplink random access channel messages are executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: transmit, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially last position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 4 (depends on 1) The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: receive an index of a random access occasion at the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 5 (depends on 1) The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: transmit an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, wherein a start of a random access response window is based at least in part on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions, and wherein the random access response window is for receiving the downlink random access channel message upon transmitting the uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages. ### Claim 6 (depends on 5) The apparatus of claim 5, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: identify that the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to the random access occasion based at least in part on determining the start of the random access response window using the random access occasion. ### Claim 7 (depends on 1) The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: receive a control portion of the downlink random access channel message, wherein the control message comprises a cyclic redundancy check scrambled by the radio network temporary identifier. ### Claim 8 (depends on 1) The apparatus of claim 1, wherein the instructions to transmit the plurality of uplink random access channel messages are executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: transmit, on a first random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, a first uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; and transmit, on a second random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, a second uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, wherein the second uplink random access channel message is transmitted later than the first uplink random access channel message. ### Claim 9 (depends on 8) The apparatus of claim 8, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the UE to: identify that the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to the second random access occasion based at least in part on the second uplink random access channel message being transmitted later than the first uplink random access channel message. ### Claim 10 An apparatus for wireless communication at a network entity, comprising: at least one processor; and memory coupled to the at least one processor, the memory storing instructions executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: transmit an indication of a plurality of random access occasions associated with a random access procedure; receive a plurality of uplink random access channel messages over a plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; select a radio network temporary identifier for a user equipment (UE) based at least in part on a defined position within the plurality of random access occasions; and transmit a downlink random access channel message using the radio network temporary identifier based at least in part on the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 11 (depends on 10) The apparatus of claim 10, wherein the instructions to receive the plurality of uplink random access channel messages are executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: receive, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially first position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 12 (depends on 10) The apparatus of claim 10, wherein the instructions to receive the plurality of uplink random access channel messages are executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: receive, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially last position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 13 (depends on 10) The apparatus of claim 10, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: transmit an index of a random access occasion at the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 14 (depends on 10) The apparatus of claim 10, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: receive an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, wherein a start of a random access response window is based at least in part on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions, and wherein the random access response window is for transmitting the downlink random access channel message upon receiving the uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages. ### Claim 15 (depends on 14) The apparatus of claim 14, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: identify that the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to the random access occasion based at least in part on determining the start of the random access response window using the random access occasion. ### Claim 16 (depends on 10) The apparatus of claim 10, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: transmit a control portion of the downlink random access channel message, wherein the control portion comprises a cyclic redundancy check scrambled by the radio network temporary identifier. ### Claim 17 (depends on 10) The apparatus of claim 10, wherein the instructions to receive the plurality of uplink random access channel messages are executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: receive, on a first random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, a first uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; and receive, on a second random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, a second uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, wherein the second uplink random access channel message is received later than the first uplink random access channel message. ### Claim 18 (depends on 17) The apparatus of claim 17, wherein the instructions are further executable by the at least one processor to cause the network entity to: identify that the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to the second random access occasion based at least in part on the second uplink random access channel message being received later than the first uplink random access channel message. ### Claim 19 A method for wireless communication at a user equipment (UE), comprising: receiving an indication of a plurality of random access occasions associated with a random access procedure; transmitting a plurality of uplink random access channel messages over the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; selecting a radio network temporary identifier for the UE based at least in part on a defined position within the plurality of random access occasions; and receiving a downlink random access channel message using the radio network temporary identifier based at least in part on the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 20 (depends on 19) The method of claim 19, wherein transmitting the plurality of uplink random access channel messages comprises: transmitting, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially first position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 21 (depends on 19) The method of claim 19, wherein transmitting the plurality of uplink random access channel messages comprises: transmitting, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially last position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 22 (depends on 19) The method of claim 19, further comprising: receiving an index of a random access occasion at the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 23 (depends on 19) The method of claim 19, further comprising: transmitting an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, wherein a start of a random access response window is based at least in part on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions, and wherein the random access response window is for receiving the downlink random access channel message upon transmitting the uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages. ### Claim 24 (depends on 23) The method of claim 23, further comprising: identifying that the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to the random access occasion based at least in part on determining the start of the random access response window using the random access occasion. ### Claim 25 (depends on 19) The method of claim 19, further comprising: receiving a control portion of the downlink random access channel message, wherein the control message comprises a cyclic redundancy check scrambled by the radio network temporary identifier. ### Claim 26 (depends on 19) The method of claim 19, wherein transmitting the plurality of uplink random access channel messages comprises: transmitting, on a first random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, a first uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; and transmitting, on a second random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, a second uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, wherein the second uplink random access channel message is transmitted later than the first uplink random access channel message. ### Claim 27 (depends on 26) The method of claim 26, further comprising: identifying that the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to the second random access occasion based at least in part on the second uplink random access channel message being transmitted later than the first uplink random access channel message. ### Claim 28 A method for wireless communication at a network entity, comprising: transmitting an indication of a plurality of random access occasions associated with a random access procedure; receiving a plurality of uplink random access channel messages over a plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the plurality of uplink random access channel messages; selecting a radio network temporary identifier for a user equipment (UE) based at least in part on a defined position within the plurality of random access occasions; and transmitting a downlink random access channel message using the radio network temporary identifier based at least in part on the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 29 (depends on 28) The method of claim 28, wherein receiving the plurality of uplink random access channel messages comprises: receiving, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially first position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions. ### Claim 30 (depends on 28) The method of claim 28, wherein receiving the plurality of uplink random access channel messages comprises: receiving, on a random access occasion of the plurality of random access occasions corresponding to the defined position, an uplink random access channel message of the plurality of uplink random access channel messages, the uplink random access channel message comprising a random access channel preamble, wherein the defined position within the plurality of random access occasions corresponds to a sequentially last position of the random access occasion within the plurality of random access occasions.