# US 2019/0318281 A1 · Profiling of hot water use from electrical thermal storage vessels > Agents: this data is available as JSON from the patentgrep API and MCP server — see https://patentgrep.com/llms.txt - Number: US 2019/0318281 A1 - Document ID: US20190318281A1 - Status: Published application - Kind: A1 - Application number: 16/468,752 - Filed: 2017-12-26 - Published: 2019-10-17 - Earliest claimed: 2016-12-27 - Assignees: Vito NV - Applicants: Vito NV - Inventors: Koen VANTHOURNOUT; Wim CARDINAELS; Steven VAN DEUN - Web page: https://patentgrep.com/patent/US20190318281A1 ## CPC - F24H 15/152: Forecasting future energy consumption - F24D 19/10: Arrangement or mounting of control or safety devices (only the heater being controlled F24H9/20) - F24H 9/2021: {Storage heaters} - F24H 15/148: Assessing the current energy consumption - F24H 15/215: before heating - F24H 15/219: after heating - F24H 15/238: Flow rate - F24H 15/421: using pre-stored data - G06Q 10/04: Forecasting or optimisation specially adapted for administrative or management purposes, e.g. linear programming or "cutting stock problem" (market predictions or forecasting for commercial activities G06Q30/0202) - G06Q 50/06: Energy or water supply - F24H 15/20: characterised by control inputs - F24H 15/225: at different heights of the tank - F24H 15/464: using local wireless communication - F24H: FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL (steam generation F22) - F24D: DOMESTIC- OR SPACE-HEATING SYSTEMS, e.g. CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEMS; DOMESTIC HOT-WATER SUPPLY SYSTEMS; ELEMENTS OR COMPONENTS THEREFOR (using steam or condensate extracted or exhausted from steam engine plants for heating purposes F01K17/02) - G06Q: INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY [ICT] SPECIALLY ADAPTED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE, COMMERCIAL, FINANCIAL, MANAGERIAL OR SUPERVISORY PURPOSES; SYSTEMS OR METHODS SPECIALLY ADAPTED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE, COMMERCIAL, FINANCIAL, MANAGERIAL OR SUPERVISORY PURPOSES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR ## Abstract A method and retrofit system hot water or cold water consumption profiling to obtain electrical flexibility data of hot or cold thermal storage vessels driven by heat pump or a heat exchanger e.g. driven by electricity, such as electrical boilers with resistance heaters or driven by a heat pump or heat exchanger e.g. driven by electricity. In particular the determination of flexibility of thermal storage vessels such as DHW buffers or DCW buffers, e.g. for use in stabilisation of the electricity grid. ## Claims ### Claim at position 1 1-34. (canceled) ### Claim 35 A method of operating a system for providing hot or cold water, the system having a plurality of thermal energy storage vessels and an electrical distribution system for supplying electrical power to the thermal energy storage vessels, a hot water thermal energy storage vessel having a fresh water inlet and a hot water outlet or a cold water thermal energy storage vessel having a fresh water inlet and a cold water outlet, further comprising means for charging the thermal energy storage vessels using electrical energy provided by the electrical system, and means to measure the timing and the amount of electrical energy consumed by the hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels over a time period, the method comprising: retro-fitting means for measuring the amount of hot or cold water dispensed over the time period from a hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or a group of thermal energy storage vessels, respectively, calculating and storing historical data of thermal energy consumed by or dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or from the group of thermal energy storage vessels for the time period, and predicting future times of supply of water or consumption of electrical energy to be used for charging each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels from the historical data of dispensed or consumed thermal energy, wherein the retrofitting step does not alter one, or two or three or all of the following: local controller security based set-points, of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden; and/or security cut-outs or fuses or alarms, if present the security cut-outs or fuses or alarms of legacy equipment are not altered or suppressed, thermostats of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden, which continue to perform their duties as previously, and/or local security features of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden, which would result in depletion of water in the storage vessels, and at least some of the thermal energy storage vessels have only one heater or only one cooler and that after the retro-fitting step, the thermal energy storage vessels still have only one heater or one cooler. ### Claim 36 (depends on 35) The method of claim 35, further comprising retro-fitting the means to measure the amount of electrical energy consumed by the hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels over the time period. ### Claim 37 (depends on 35) The method of claim 35, wherein the step of retrofitting the means to determine energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels comprises retrofitting a volume flow meter and a temperature sensor or detector. ### Claim 38 (depends on 35) The method of claim 35, wherein predicting future times of supply of water or consumption of electrical energy to be used for charging each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels comprises any of: averaging methods, time series methods, regression methods, regression tree methods, artificial intelligence methods, expert systems, or machine learning methods. ### Claim 39 (depends on 35) The method of claim 35, wherein the thermal storage vessels are legacy vessels, the method comprising adapting the legacy vessels by addition of the means to calculate heat energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels. ### Claim 40 A method of operating a system for providing hot or cold water, the system having a plurality of thermal energy storage vessels and an electrical distribution system for supplying electrical power to the thermal energy storage vessels, a hot water thermal energy storage vessel having a fresh water inlet and a hot water outlet or a cold water thermal energy storage vessel having a fresh water inlet and a cold water outlet, further comprising means for charging the thermal energy storage vessels using electrical energy provided by the electrical system, and means to measure the timing and the amount of electrical energy consumed by the hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels over a time period, the method comprising: retro-fitting means for measuring the amount of hot or cold water dispensed over the time period from a hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or a group of thermal energy storage vessels, respectively, calculating and storing historical data of thermal energy consumed by or dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or from the group of thermal energy storage vessels for the time period, and predicting future times of supply of water or consumption of electrical energy to be used for charging each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels from the historical data of dispensed or consumed thermal energy. ### Claim 41 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, further comprising retro-fitting the means to measure the amount of electrical energy consumed by the hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels over the time period. ### Claim 42 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, further comprising: co-ordinating future dispensing of hot or cold water from each hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels and the charging with electrical energy of each hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels to thereby stabilise the electrical distribution network. ### Claim 43 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, wherein the step of retrofitting the means to determine energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels comprises retrofitting a volume flow meter and a temperature sensor or detector. ### Claim 44 (depends on 43) The method of claim 43, wherein the step of retrofitting the volume flow meter and the temperature sensor or detector includes retrofitting the volume flow meter and temperature sensor or detector at the fresh water inlet of each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels, and/or retrofitting the volume flow meter and the temperature sensor or detector at the outlet of each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels. ### Claim 45 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, wherein predicting future times of supply of water or consumption of electrical energy to be used for charging each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels comprises any of: averaging methods, time series methods, regression methods, regression tree methods, artificial intelligence methods, expert systems, or machine learning methods. ### Claim 46 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, wherein the thermal storage vessels are legacy vessels, the method comprising adapting the legacy vessels by addition of the means to calculate heat energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels. ### Claim 47 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, wherein the retro-fitting step does not alter one, or two or three or all of the following: local controller security based set-points, of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden; and/or security cut-outs or fuses or alarms, if present the security cut-outs or fuses or alarms of legacy equipment are not altered or suppressed, thermostats of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden, which continue to perform their duties as previously, and/or local security features of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden, which would result in depletion of water in the storage vessels. ### Claim 48 (depends on 40) The method of claim 40, wherein at least some of the thermal energy storage vessels have only one heater or only one cooler and that after the retro-fitting step, the thermal energy storage vessels still have only one heater or one cooler. ### Claim 49 A system for providing hot or cold water, comprising: a plurality of thermal energy storage vessels and an electrical system for supplying electrical power to the thermal energy storage vessels, a hot water thermal energy storage vessel having a fresh water inlet and a hot water outlet or a cold water thermal energy storage vessel having a fresh water inlet and a cold water outlet, further comprising means for charging the thermal energy storage vessels using electrical energy provided by the electrical system, each thermal energy storage vessel or a group of thermal energy storage vessels having retro-fitted means to measure the timing of, and the energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels and retrofitted means to measure the timing of, and the electrical energy consumed by each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels over the time period, retro-fitted means for calculating and storing historical data of consumed electrical energy and dispensed thermal energy for a time period dispensed from one thermal energy storage vessel or from a group of thermal energy storage vessels, means for predicting from the historical data of dispensed thermal energy and consumed electrical energy, future times of supply of water or consumption of electrical energy to be used for charging each thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels. ### Claim 50 (depends on 49) The system of claim 49, further comprising: means for co-ordinating future dispensing of hot or cold water from each hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels and the charging with electrical energy of each hot or cold water thermal energy storage vessel or group of thermal energy storage vessels to thereby stabilise the electrical distribution network. ### Claim 51 (depends on 49) The system of claim 49, wherein retrofitted means to measure thermal energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels comprises a volume flow meter and a temperature sensor or detector. ### Claim 52 (depends on 49) The system of claim 49, further comprising retrofit means to calculate heat energy supplied in the volume of water dispensed from each thermal energy storage vessel or the group of thermal energy storage vessels. ### Claim 53 (depends on 49) The system of claim 49, wherein the plurality of thermal energy storage vessels and all of the retro-fit means and the electrical system are adapted so that one, or two or three or all of the following are not altered: local controller security based set-points, of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden; and/or security cut-outs or fuses or alarms, if present the security cut-outs or fuses or alarms of legacy equipment are not altered or suppressed, thermostats of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden, which continue to perform their duties as previously, and/or local security features of legacy equipment, if present are not overridden, which would result in depletion of water in the storage vessels. ### Claim 54 (depends on 40) A non-transitory computer program product which executes the method of claim 40 when executed on a processing engine.